A Boston2024 panel speaks Wednesday at Cambridge Rindge and Latin Schoo
A Boston2024 panel speaks Wednesday at Cambridge Rindge and Latin School, including 1996 Paralympian Joseph Quintanilla, exec Erin Murphy Rafferty, adviser Doug Arnot and architect David Manfredi. (Photo: Marc Levy)

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031915i-Boston2024-logoMost of the comments and questions coming Wednesday to a four-person panel representing the Boston2024 Olympics bid were hostile, with at least one speaker accusing the panel of lying and another refusing to even look in the officialsโ€™ direction.

Along with accusations of environmental irresponsibility and an agenda that rewards the rich and displaces the poor and questions about the impact of an estimated 195,500 visitors every day for three weeks came criticisms about how Boston2024 went about making Massachusetts the U.S. choice to bid for the summer games and Paralympics: privately. Last month the City Council adopted a policy order denouncing the organization for acting โ€œwithout meaningful public input or any real community engagement.โ€

In general, Cantabrigians have been wary of the idea, with only the suggestion of fixes to a vital but badly aging mass transit system winning grudging interest for the idea.

Boston2024 is now traveling the state on a listening tour (first described as 20 meetings in 20 weeks, but swelling to about 35 meetings in that same period as they keep accepting offers, according to executive vice president Erin Murphy Rafferty) and heading toward a Sept. 15 deadline to declare an official city candidacy to the International Olympic Committee. A final application and guarantee letter is due Jan. 8.

Here are four takeaways from Wednesdayโ€™s three-hour meeting at the Cambridge Rindge and Latin Schoolโ€™s Fitzgerald Theatre, where a huge majority of the questions ranged from skeptical to scathing:

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Aggregation No. 1Boston2024 principals say theyโ€™re fine with a referendum. Letting the people weigh in on whether they want the group to make a bid was a recurring theme, with Somervilleโ€™s Heather Thompson summing it up most articulately and, for an increasingly bleary smattering of audience, rousingly: โ€œWhy has a citizens referendum not been an automatic part of this process, as it was in Hamburg? Why do they have democracy down better than we do?โ€

The panelists took it in stride, calling a vote not part of the formal U.S. process, but not something the group would block. โ€œNobody here is preventing it from happening,โ€ Olympics expert and adviser Doug Arnot said.

An accusation from Thompson that Boston2024 might be โ€œrunning out the clockโ€ with its process drew a sharper response from Rafferty: โ€œEverybody in this room has the ability to start the signature-gathering for a referendum. Weโ€™ve said all along that if thatโ€™s what folks want, we will certainly not stand in the way.โ€

A WBUR poll of 505 registered Boston voters found support for an Olympics bid dropping to 44 percent in February from 51 percent the previous month, and opposition growing to 46 percent from 33 percent โ€“ after the regionโ€™s mass transit broke down repeatedly in the face of a harsh winter.

Oslo, Norway, opted out of a 2022 winter games bid recently after nearly 60 percent of voters nationwide gave plans the thumbs-down.

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A Boston2024 panel speaks Wednesday at Cambridge Rindge and Latin Schoo
A Boston2024 panel speaks Wednesday at Cambridge Rindge and Latin School, including 1996 Paralympian Joseph Quintanilla, exec Erin Murphy Rafferty, adviser Doug Arnot and architect David Manfredi. (Photo: Marc Levy)

Aggregation No. 2The plan will change. But the next version isnโ€™t on a schedule. After the 35-meeting listening tour, Boston2024 is going to make revisions to its plan and show what has changed based on public input, Rafferty told Cambridgeโ€™s Saul Tannenbaum during the Q&A.

But the timeline for that is not quite clear. โ€œThere isnโ€™t a specific date yet. We are get through this [first], but we will have one, and a new announcement in terms of the next phase,โ€ Rafferty said afterward.

Arnot contradicted that, saying there wouldnโ€™t be a single, solid revision โ€“ an answer also a bit at odds with the panelโ€™s representations during the meeting and his own shutdown of a resident who called out a challenge for the panel to name a single thing it would change as a result of citizen complaints. He told her there would be a reconsideration after the round of meetings, only when everyone had a chance to be heard.

โ€œIt probably isnโ€™t going to be, โ€˜Okay, weโ€™re taking all this and now hereโ€™s the new plan,โ€™โ€ he said later. โ€œWe will continue iterations of this as we will continue discussions also. So there really isnโ€™t a fixed date.โ€

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Aggregation No. 3Mass transit could get an Olympics boost. But itโ€™s a gamble. Early in the meeting the panel flashed a slide showing saying its plans โ€œaccelerate and put a deadline on improvements that are alreadyย  priorities,โ€ including MBTA upgrades and โ€œnew red and orange line carsโ€; South Station expansion plans; the green line extension; and a rail link between the Back Bay and Boston Convention & Exhibition Center stations.

Arnot further noted that Salt Lake City, Utah, saw its transit plans boosted when it won the 2002 games, with Interstate 215 improvements accelerated by about a decade and a light rail project by at least five years. โ€œThere is a history of this, of working with the U.S. Department of Transportation,โ€ he said. But he wasnโ€™t exactly reckless with his promises.

โ€œIt is not a given,โ€ Arnot said. โ€œIt takes hard work. But it is an opportunity we have.โ€

He agreed that being able to claim faster and widespread improvements to the T and other mass transit would be a great selling point for the Olympics bid, but confessed to being unsure of the timeline or process for locking in a federal commitment.

โ€œThatโ€™s a really hard question, because thatโ€™s all part of the 21st Century Transportation bond bill, and that has to be funded,โ€ said panelist David Manfredi, founder and principal of Elkus-Manfredi Architects. Sparking funding through a confirmed Olympics bid โ€œis possible, and thatโ€™s certainly the hope, but I donโ€™t think you would see that until you were much further along in the process.โ€

Arnot said a commitment to federal transportation funding could happen before the bid went in, โ€œbut it might not happen until.โ€ The Salt Lake City transportation changes were largely secured after the games were won โ€“ which makes relying on money for systemic mass transit changes in Boston look a little bit more like a gamble and less like a selling point.

Cambridgeโ€™s Steve Kaiser was upset that there were no MBTA officials on the tour, considering how crucial transit is to winning over the public and making a Boston summer games work. Even Boston2024โ€™s chief executive, the former state Secretary of Transportation, was missing from the meeting; Rafferty said he was with a sick relative.

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Aggregation No. 4You shouldnโ€™t even get used to the logo. Questions about remaking the Boston2024 logo โ€“ which officially is inspired by the laurel wreath bestowed upon winning athletes in ancient Greece but somewhat inauspiciously suggests Boston is crying a frozen tear โ€“ were greeted with resigned laughter from Arnot and Manfredi.

There will be a decision whether to use the logo for the application phase, Arnot said, then a possible other candidate phase logo and finally another for the games themselves.

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